KEVIN: Did you see what that guy was doing?

JOANNA: Who?

KEVIN: The singer of The Bravery.

JOANNA: (laughs) Well, all I saw was the boy-scout uniform. Why�what was he doing exactly?

JOANNA: Was he trying to open his pores or something?

KEVIN: I just think he�s having throat problems. He�s holding his face over a hot bowl of water and all this steam is coming out.

JOANNA: My mom used to do that.

KEVIN: To him?

KEVIN: He was like, steaming his face.

JOANNA: No! [laughs] No�to me�when I was little she would do it when I got sick.

KEVIN: Maybe he knows your mom �cause that�s what he�s doing right now.

JOANNA: I kind of miss it when she used to do that. Now when I�m sick I have to take care of myself and it�s so depressing.

KEVIN: I have never done that in my life and I think�it doesn�t work. Did it ever make you feel better?

JOANNA: I don�t remember � you�re always sick when you�re little. I asked him to take a picture with me and he told me he had to call his manager and ask him first [laughs].

KEVIN: I�m going to bite my tongue right now�

JOANNA: Ok, we don�t have to talk about The Bravery anymore. We should talk about you� I mean, this is your interview.

KEVIN: Can I say one thing? Please?

JOANNA: Ok, say one thing�

KEVIN: I used to know that guy. Three years ago my ex-girlfriend was one of his good friends. He used to be in a band called Young Conquistadors and they were kind of like this jokey band � he had dreads and long blonde hair.

JOANNA: Oh really? Do you have any photos of them [laughs]?

KEVIN: No, you can find some on the Internet though. And let me tell you�he sure was no boy-scout then.

JOANNA: [laughs].

KEVIN: Wow. Who am I � am I like 50 Cent? What am I doing? All of this is not real beef�I�m totally joking.

JOANNA: Yeah, it�s pure fun. I�ll be sure to make fun of you the whole time if I ever interview the Bravery. Anyway�tell everyone what your name is�

KEVIN: Kevin Devine!

JOANNA: Is that why your band is called Kevin Devine?

KEVIN: Well, when there�s more than one person on stage, we call ourselves Kevin Devine and the Goddamn band.

JOANNA: How long has Kevin Devine been around for?

KEVIN: Uhh, as a person? 25 years.

JOANNA: No. Shit, sorry. I meant as a music entity�

KEVIN: I put my first record out by myself when I was 20, so I guess I have been playing for about five years or so.

JOANNA: How did this version of Kevine Devine start?

KEVIN: The drummer was the drummer of my old band, Miracle of 86. The guy who plays bass reproduces my stuff and his wife plays the piano. We all just kinda came together.

JOANNA: There was one girl on stage who wasn�t playing an instrument � she was just dancing�and it didn�t look like she was Kevin Devine�s dancer or anything like that� she was just kinda swaying back and forth. What exactly is her purpose in the band?

KEVIN: You know, today was a weird set. The girl you�re talking about is named Carrie and she does a lot of the backup vocal stuff. Usually sets are arranged where she could go on and off, but this was such a packed stage and we had such a streamlined amount of time, so she was like �I guess I�ll just hang out and dance��

JOANNA: It seemed like every time you would say anything or make any kinda movement all the girls on stage would giggle, like �He-he-he� �

KEVIN: In the band?

JOANNA: It seemed like you purposefully placed them there so they could, like, fawn all over you.

KEVIN: No! No! No!

JOANNA: Dude, they were giggling like little school girls.

KEVIN: Well one of them is like my best friend and one of them is married�to one of the other guys on the stage nonetheless.

JOANNA: Uh oh � don�t tell them I said anything�I thought you had them there just to, like, make yourself feel confident.

KEVIN: Yeah�

JOANNA: Like just in case no one laughed at your jokes.

KEVIN: Yeah�right. You figured me out. I pay them to laugh.

JOANNA: [laughs] Well, women have been paid to do worse things. So when I got here, my friend Andrew came up to me and was like, �Oh, I told Kevin Devine that you were coming and he was really excited�. He then proceeded to tell me that you said you were a fan of the site, and I was really surprised.

KEVIN: Why?

JOANNA: Usually when I do band interviews, I get paired up with the token scumbag of the band�you know what I mean? I can�t even tell you how many times I�ve heard, �You don�t want to interview me � I�m like a normal nice guy, but our drummer � he�s a total scumbag, he probably likes your website.� You�re quite the opposite of the stereotypical scummy rock dude �who likes porn�.

KEVIN: That�s just bullshit. People really have to have a little more ownership of what they�re like when they�re by themselves. And the honest truth is that the most bookish presentation of like, �Oh no, I don�t�� � is total bullshit. You know, like Indie Rock kids � that whole sort of sexual presentation of like Little-Boy-Lost thing � it�s not really what those people are like when they�re alone.

JOANNA: Oh believe me. I know that�.

KEVIN: (laughs) Yeah, and I know you know. In any case, I�m not ashamed to say I think your site is great.

JOANNA: So, do you only look at BurningAngel to read the band interviews?

KEVIN: Yeah, I�ve actually never looked at any of the other stuff ever.

JOANNA: Oh, never?

KEVIN: No, I�ve absolutely looked at all the stuff.

JOANNA: [laughs]. Who�s your favorite girl?

KEVIN: I wouldn�t begin to say that. What happens if I offend the wrong people and suddenly girls start fighting over me?!

JOANNA: Now that wouldn�t happen. We�re like an anarchist commune� we like to share our boys. Cone on!� Tell me! I can hook you up!

KEVIN: Don�t even � don�t even �

JOANNA: I think you really should, in the name of all the other sensitive singer songwriter types. It�s always the rock boys with lots of tattoos and drinking problems who wind up with the porno girls and you need to change that. I mean� who knows. Maybe it could catch on? Maybe one day Chris Martin will date Jenna Jameson.

KEVIN: Now THAT would be a hot couple.

JOANNA: Yeah totally� for many reasons. One being that Jenna Jameson�s husband is kind of a tool�

KEVIN: He seems to be a little creepy.

JOANNA: Yeah. I mean, I would never trust a guy with blond tips.

KEVIN: He also has, like, spaced out Mormon vibe, like �

JOANNA: Yeah, they�re religious or something.

KEVIN: Well, I have no idea what that�s about.

JOANNA: Yeah� damn dude. We�re talking a lot of shit. People are going to kick our asses after they read this.

KEVIN: You have to help me start this revolution because I can�t pull that off by myself.

JOANNA: Don�t worry I�ve got it all under control. So do you look at other porn that�s not BurningAngel?

JOANNA: Yeah, sure. I think I�ve owned in my life, one video. And I totally bought it. See this is where we�ve gotten to the cross section, like, lame ass, heart-on-your-sleeve singer/songwriters and porn. The tape was bought � it was a Chacey Lane porn � and it was bought �cause in high school � I got totally dumped by this girl I was dating for two years and I was like, �I�m gonna go out on a limb here � I�m gonna go buy some porn. I�ve never done this in my life,� and it was wonderful. It was a good investment. It got me through a lot of break-ups.

JOANNA: Well you know what they say. Porn heals a broken heart�

KEVIN: It totally did! Recently I was actually bummed out because I lent that video to a friend in college, and I haven�t seen him in four years and I just totally realized that he has my fuckin� Chacey Lane tape.

JOANNA: Ouch.

KEVIN: And I�m not going to go back and buy it again, but I like surfing the web, and sometimes I �

JOANNA: You come across porn �

KEVIN: Yeah, sometimes it happens.

JOANNA: Did you ever listen to the Bloodhound Gang?

KEVIN: They sing that �You and me baby ain�t� �

JOANNA: Yeah, that song. Believe it or not they actually have more than one song� and one of them is about Chasey Lane.

KEVIN: Oh did they really?

JOANNA: Yeah, they did and it�s a really funny song �

KEVIN: Oh wait, what�s that called? I think I know what it � what�s it called?

JOANNA: I think it�s called �Chacey Lane� [laughs]. Every time I hear it I get really emotionally distraught over the fact that there is no song about Joanna Angel. So here is my crazy idea. I replace your missing Chacey Lane tape with a BurningAngel DVD and YOU write a song about me.

KEVIN: That sounds like a challenge. We should do it. We�ll swap. I�ll give you my record and you�ll give me a DVD.

JOANNA: That�s fair. And I�ll interview your band and you write a song about me.

KEVIN: I�m warning you. My record�s probably not as hot as your DVD�

JOANNA: Well, most things aren�t but I learned to live with that.

JOANNA: So this is a 92.3 KROCK show, which of course brought in a lot of jocks. They kinda seemed to be digging you. Do you ever get a guy in the audience being like, �Pussy!�?

KEVIN: You know, a lot of like, big � like guy-guys �that that are like, �Hey man, we love your stuff� and I�m like, �Alright�� �

JOANNA: Maybe you bring out the softer side in them.

KEVIN: And they bring out the harder side in me, so�

JOANNA: That�s beautiful [laughs]�So, umm, is there anything else you want to say to anyone reading this interview on BurningAngel right now?

KEVIN: I�m proud to be on the site. I think it�s so cool � I can�t wait to tell my roommate! He�s gonna be so proud!

JOANNA: Ok, well good luck.

KEVIN: Thank you, thank you � you too.